Joseph Stiglitz in Australia

"Countries that imitate the American model are kidding themselves," Joseph Stiglitz said. "It seems that some people here would like to emulate the American model. I don't fully understand the logic."
"Trying to pretend that universities are like private markets is absurd"

Professor Stiglitz said Australia had "a system that is really a model for the rest of the world", and deregulating fees would move the entire system in the wrong direction.

"Trying to pretend that universities are like private markets is absurd. The worst-functioning part of the US educational market at the tertiary level is the private for-profit system,'' he said. ''It is a disaster. It excels in one area, exploiting poor children. If you're rich your parents can pay the fees, but if you are poor you are going to worry about how much debt you're undertaking".

"It is a way of closing off opportunity and that's why the US doesn't have educational opportunity.
"While we in the US are trying to re-regulate universities, you are talking about deregulating them. It really is a crime."

Professor Stiglitz said Australia also had one of the best healthcare systems in the world.

"Your outcome per dollar is probably the best or one of the best. Your equality of access is one of the best. Why would anybody … try to make your system like the American system? The US is at the bottom. As for talk about a price signal, people don't make decisions about medical tests and procedures based on price. Maybe for cosmetic surgery they do, but for poor people, price signals price them out."

He said the typical inflation-adjusted income of a US household was lower than it was 25 years ago. The typical inflation-adjusted income of a male full-time worker was its lowest in 40 years.

"You have to say that the American market model has failed. It's a very strong statement for someone who believes in a market economy. But at the bottom it's even worse. The minimum wage is about where it was almost a half century ago."

Asked what Australia had done right that the US had not, he said: "unions".

"You have been able to maintain stronger trade unions than the United States. The absence of any protection for workers, any bargaining power, has had adverse effects in the United States.
"You have a minimum wage of around $15 an hour. We have a minimum wage of $8 an hour. That pulls down our entire wage structure."

"The elite, the top one per cent are not too concerned. When you have so much inequality those at the top say: I don't need public transportation, I have a helicopter, I don't need public schools, I don't need all these other public services and so the result of that is - you look at America today we have some of the best universities, but our average education performance is mediocre."

Professor Stiglitz nominated politics as the reason for enormous advances in wealth and income at the top of the US distribution, and falling living standards in the middle and below.

"I agree with Thomas Piketty who in his new study says inequality began growing at the start of the 1980s. I think President Reagan's election was a marking point. That’s when the rhetoric about small government took over."

With weaker regulations, particularly in the financial sector, it became easier for firms to lobby governments for favours than to obey rules. The result was the global financial crisis.

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